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It’s still there…

Yup, it’s still there:

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  1. Davide / Apr 27 2013 9:08 AM

    “Those Italians…”

    Western Civilization (=Greco-Roman world);

    Italy :

    * Etruscan civilization;
    * Pelasgians;
    * Sabines;
    * Samnites;
    * Magna Graecia;

    * Romans [the Roman state can be said to have lasted in some form from 753 BC to the fall in 1475 of the Principality of Theodoro (a successor state and fragment of the Byzantine Empire which escaped conquest by the Ottomans in 1453), for a total of 2,236 years. Roman Civilization was transplanted to most parts of Europe, the Mediterranean basin and the Near East in the form of law, architecture, engineering, roads, aqueducts, public baths, sanitation, trade, literature, art, libraries and agriculture. About half of European cities were built by the ancient Italians: London (121 AD); Paris (53 BC); Vienna (100 AD); Bonn (11 BC); Nîmes (118 BC) … … ];
    * Roman Catholic Church (The history of the Christian faith; The spreading of literacy in European languages and the foundation of the Universities, Hospitals and Monasticism; Moral; Scholasticism …);

    * Maritime republics;
    * Humanism;

    * Renaissance (The discovery of the New World by Christoper Columbus; Scientific Revolution; Palladianism; Music writing; Opera; Ballet; Concerto; Sonata; Oratorio; Fresco; Sfumato; Cangiante; Chiaroscuro; Unione; Conservatory; Perspective; Italic type, Semicolon; Commedia dell’arte; The most universal genius of all time, Leonardo Da Vinci. He invented a large number of ingenious machines, among them: Parachute, hang gliding, helicopter, bicycle, automobile, excavator, air conditioner, oil lamp, alarm clock, printing press, odometer, machine gun, tanks, scuba outfits, submarine, robot, spotlight, magnifying glass concentrated solar power, a calculator, mechanical grill … … His flying devices, embodied sound principles of aerodynamics, which he developed after carefully studying the flight of birds. 186 Inventions … … );

    * Mannerism;
    * Baroque;
    * Macchiaioli;
    * Divisionism;
    * Veduta;
    * Verismo;
    * Futurism;
    * Metaphysical;
    * Rationalism;
    * Novecento Italiano;
    * Gruppo 7;
    * Italian neorealism;
    * Spatialism;
    * Arte Povera;
    * Transavantgarde …

    Italy has been a champion of the arts throughout the centuries. Through the works of her artists one can witness the whole spectrum of man’s creativity in the last 3,000 years.

    “The Aryans”

    Fifty Countries: * Rococo; * Enlightenment; * Sturm und Drang; * Industrial Revolution; * Colonial empires; * Impressionism; * Romanticism; * Expressionism. S-t-o-p.

    During Roman antiquity the Mediterranean shore had been the birthplace and the locus of civilization, while northern Europe had been the territory belonging to Barbarian Peoples, illiterate nomads who lived in the same prehistoric conditions that the southern peoples had abandoned thousands of years earlier. We could summarize this situation by saying that until the Middle Ages the Neolithic Revolution had not reached northern Europe.

    According to Tacitus, barbarians were illiterate and untutored, they were uncouth and wore strange or un-Roman dress, they were Arian heretics, they followed the traditions of their barbaric ancestors. They lived a simple, nomadic life in harmony with nature.

    Nordics had made no substantial contribution to pre-modern civilization. The o-n-l-y contribution by the ancient Aryans to European civilization was Indo-European languages.

    Northern Europe had nothing before Italians civilised:

    1. No technology or law.
    2. No civilised society.
    3. Didn’t even invent a written language.

    We gave you everything you have.

    With love… a Sicilian.

    P.s. Intelligence is much too complex a phenomenon to be measured by a test yielding one number. However I did a test of IQ? Result? 131

    • JayMan / Apr 27 2013 10:43 AM

      Roman Civilization was transplanted to most parts of Europe, the Mediterranean basin and the Near East in the form of law, architecture, engineering, roads, aqueducts, public baths, sanitation, trade, literature, art, libraries and agriculture. About half of European cities were built by the ancient Italians: London (121 AD); Paris (53 BC); Vienna (100 AD); Bonn (11 BC); Nîmes (118 BC)

      During Roman antiquity the Mediterranean shore had been the birthplace and the locus of civilization, while northern Europe had been the territory belonging to Barbarian Peoples, illiterate nomads who lived in the same prehistoric conditions that the southern peoples had abandoned thousands of years earlier. We could summarize this situation by saying that until the Middle Ages the Neolithic Revolution had not reached northern Europe.

      According to Tacitus, barbarians were illiterate and untutored, they were uncouth and wore strange or un-Roman dress, they were Arian heretics, they followed the traditions of their barbaric ancestors. They lived a simple, nomadic life in harmony with nature.

      Nordics had made no substantial contribution to pre-modern civilization. The o-n-l-y contribution by the ancient Aryans to European civilization was Indo-European languages.

      Northern Europe had nothing before Italians civilised:

      1. No technology or law.
      2. No civilised society.
      3. Didn’t even invent a written language.

      We gave you everything you have.

      Yep, yep. And that was also nearly 2,000 years ago. A lot of shit has happened since then.

      P.s. Intelligence is much too complex a phenomenon to be measured by a test yielding one number. However I did a test of IQ? Result? 131

      131? Excellent, then you should have no trouble understanding the evidence that shows just how wrong you are. See here:

      HBD Fundamentals.

  2. Davide / Apr 27 2013 12:14 PM

    “Yep, yep. And that was also nearly 2,000 years ago. A lot of shit has happened since then.”

    The modern history ? The Italian genius

    * Leonardo da Vinci, whose IQ was estimated for 220, was hailed the most intelligent person in the history of humankind. SOURCE: Buzan, Tony; Keene, Raymond. “Buzan’s Book of Mental World Records.” D&B Publishing, 2005. p. 31.

    * Andrea Palladio, architect and theoretician. His treatise “I quattro libri dell’architettura” (1570) made him the most influential person in the history of Western architecutre. SOURCE: “Architettura moderna: Andrea Palladio”, 2006. p. 25.

    * Dante Alighieri, the major Italian poet of the Middle Ages; his Divine Comedy, is considered by many to be the greatest literary work of all time. SOURCE: Harold, Bloom, “Il canone occidentale”, Bompiani, Milano, 1996; Erich Auerbach, “Studi su Dante”, Feltrinelli, Milano 1964).

    * Christopher Columbus is the greatest explorer of all time. Sailed in 1492 and discovered the “New World” of the Americas. Amerigo Vespucci. The name for the Americas is derived from his given name.

    Etc. Etc. Etc.

    Is stupid… the people who still believe in British propaganda “The Italian coward.” The Italians fight to “bare hands.” The other with tanks.

    * Gaius Julius Caesar, statesman and general. “[He] was perhaps the greatest military genius of all time.” SOURCE: Kahn, Arthur David. “The education of Julius Caesar: a biography, a reconstruction.” Schocken Books, 1986. p. 291.

    Also “Napoleon” was much more an Italian than a Frenchman. His father and mother were Italians, his ancestors were Italian (Tuscany) and Italian was his mother-tongue. Always fluent in his native Italian, Napoleon learned French as a second language, speaking it with a heavy accent and unable to write it grammatically.

    Scipio Aemilianus; Scipio Africanus; Pompey the Great; Andrea Doria; Eugene of Savoy; Alexander Farnese, Duke of Parma … … … An Incredible Talent.

    Italians Are The Best. Source: The History.

    Study history for Over Twenty Years.

    • JayMan / Apr 27 2013 12:27 PM

      “Yep, yep. And that was also nearly 2,000 years ago. A lot of shit has happened since then.”

      The modern history ? The Italian genius

      * Leonardo da Vinci, whose IQ was estimated for 220, was hailed the most intelligent person in the history of humankind. SOURCE: Buzan, Tony; Keene, Raymond. “Buzan’s Book of Mental World Records.” D&B Publishing, 2005. p. 31.

      * Andrea Palladio, architect and theoretician. His treatise “I quattro libri dell’architettura” (1570) made him the most influential person in the history of Western architecutre. SOURCE: “Architettura moderna: Andrea Palladio”, 2006. p. 25.

      * Dante Alighieri, the major Italian poet of the Middle Ages; his Divine Comedy, is considered by many to be the greatest literary work of all time. SOURCE: Harold, Bloom, “Il canone occidentale”, Bompiani, Milano, 1996; Erich Auerbach, “Studi su Dante”, Feltrinelli, Milano 1964).

      * Christopher Columbus is the greatest explorer of all time. Sailed in 1492 and discovered the “New World” of the Americas. Amerigo Vespucci. The name for the Americas is derived from his given name.

      Are you at least going to look at the evidence I’ve presented to you? Here’s another one on that:

      More on Farming and Inheritance Systems – Part I: IQ | JayMan’s Blog

      And this one too:

      A Tale of Two Maps | JayMan’s Blog

      Pay very close attention to what happens in Italy…

      Look, you’re a smart guy – it’s been apparently measured. There’s really no excuses for you here. Please absorb what I’ve presented to you, and then we’ll talk.

  3. Davide / Apr 27 2013 1:02 PM

    The synthesis, Professor Lynn says that Northern Europeans are more intelligent of the Peoples Of Southern Europe.

    * “The literati taught that Italy had moral and intellectual primacy because it was the cradle of European civilization – of Roman law, of Christian thought, of the Renaissance. “Primacy” was Italy’s great founding myth — the idea capable of animating and agitating, mobilizing, directing popular conscience, and sustaining action. Italy could be the spiritual empire
    that transforms and unites Western civilization.” Samuels, Richard J. Machiavelli’s Children. Cornell University Press, 2005. p. 33.

    http://books.google.it/books?id=9kAbOwB9tYQC&pg=PA33&dq=The+literati+taught+that+Italy+had+moral+and+intellectual+primacy+because+it+was+the+cradle+of+European+civilization&hl=it&sa=X&ei=ugN8UaCUOsOmtAbwuYGYCA&ved=0CDcQuwUwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20literati%20taught%20that%20Italy%20had%20moral%20and%20intellectual%20primacy%20because%20it%20was%20the%20cradle%20of%20European%20civilization&f=false

    “Italy’s cultural inventions provided the standards to which Europeans complied in literature, architecture, art, and music until the end of the 19th century, although the country lost some of its pilot role by 1650. The era is synonymous with the baroque aesthetic, fashioned in Rome in the late 1500s, and often closely associated with the Catholic Church.”

    Gregory Hanlon, Ph.D., Professor of European History at Dalhousie University in Nova Scotia, Canada.

    • JayMan / Apr 27 2013 4:08 PM

      Look Davide, if you’re going to preach, go somewhere else.

      The synthesis, Professor Lynn says that Northern Europeans are more intelligent of the Peoples Of Southern Europe.

      * “The literati taught that Italy had moral and intellectual primacy because it was the cradle of European civilization – of Roman law, of Christian thought, of the Renaissance. “Primacy” was Italy’s great founding myth — the idea capable of animating and agitating, mobilizing, directing popular conscience, and sustaining action. Italy could be the spiritual empire
      that transforms and unites Western civilization.” Samuels, Richard J. Machiavelli’s Children. Cornell University Press, 2005. p. 33.

      […]

      “Italy’s cultural inventions provided the standards to which Europeans complied in literature, architecture, art, and music until the end of the 19th century, although the country lost some of its pilot role by 1650. The era is synonymous with the baroque aesthetic, fashioned in Rome in the late 1500s, and often closely associated with the Catholic Church.”

      The data make is clear that there is an average IQ cline within Italy, with Southern Italians being less intelligent, overall, than their Northern and Central counterparts. This was clear in the posts I’ve presented to you and the sources they reference.

      Hence, bringing up the accomplishments of Northern Italians is silly. This is to be expected.

      Please comment only if you’re going to engage in intellectually honest discussion, otherwise don’t waste my time.

  4. Davide / Apr 27 2013 1:15 PM

    The Mediterranean race was the Greatest Race Of The World and was singularly responsible for the most accomplished civilizations of ancient times, including those of

    * Mesopotamia;
    * Persia;
    * Egypt;
    * India;
    * Carthage;
    * Greece;
    * Rome.

    Beautiful civilization. I love Ancient Egypt …

  5. Davide / Apr 27 2013 3:36 PM

    The truth is a cup of poison

  6. Davide / Apr 29 2013 8:00 AM

    Watch this video to find out more about the Western culture:

    If the origins of our intellectual heritage go back to the Greeks and, less directly, to the peoples of Egypt and the Near East, the contribution of Rome to the wider spreading of Western Civilization was t-r-e-m-e-n-d-o-u-s. In fields such as language, law, politics, religion, and art Roman culture continues to affect our lives. The road network of modern Europe is based upon one planned and built by the Romans; alphabet we use is the Roman alphabet; and the division of the year into twelve months of unequal length is a modified form of the calendar introduced by Julius Caesar in 45 BC. Even after the fall of the Western Roman Empire the city of Rome stood for centuries as the symbol of civilization; later empires deliberately shaped themselves on the Roman model. The enormous impact of Rome on our culture is partly the result of the industrious and determined character of the Romans, who early in their history saw themselves as the Divinely Appointed Rulers Of The World.

    The Roman Empire founded in 753 BC did not permanently disappear until the Turks captured Constantinople in 1453.

    A portrait of a Roman family, dating to c. 250 AD.

    Romans

    Rome under the emperor Constantine.

    The Romans were an Italic People … not blond men… with blue eyes.

    Source: History.

    • JayMan / Apr 29 2013 8:57 AM

      It looks like you’re more interested in marketing than having a serious discussion. I’ll say this one more time only: I’m not disputing the accomplishments of ancient Mediterranean peoples!.

      But, Rome did collapse. A lot of this was due to the genetic degradation of the Empire’s inhabitants compounded with the introduction of (uncivilized) German (yes German) barbarians. Civilization declined and would not appear again in a meaningful fashion until centuries worth of evolution could occur. Civilizations may have an expiration date because of the genetic regression they support:

      The decay of Western civilization: Double relaxed Darwinian Selection.

      Evolution proceeds at a quicker pace than you seem to be implying here, even if not as quick as some of the more alarmist HBD’ers like to purport:

      The long and short of it | West Hunter

      Since the fall of Rome, the people who have “blond men with blue eyes” among them have come to be more advanced, overall, than their Mediterranean cousins, even if they didn’t start out that way. This is the nature of evolution. Take it up with nature, not me.

    • Davide / Apr 29 2013 11:03 AM

      “But, Rome did collapse. A lot of this was due to the genetic degradation of the Empire’s inhabitants”

      * Italians of today are descendants of Romans who lived there 2,000 years ago. By Romans, I mean inhabitants of the city of Rome who had spread out (thinly) to conquer and administer a vast Mediterranean empire by that time. We watch movies in which hordes of barbarians invade, knock down the columns, set things on fire, and carry off the dancing girls. Actually, the population of Italy was in the 10s of millions (while the lombard migrations for instance numbered around 200,000). The Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Huns, Arabs, and Normans were each in the 10s of thousands. The descendants of these invaders are still there. But much more numerous are the Descendants Of The Original Italians. Error number one.

      * Why Did The British Empire Fall ?
      * Why Did The Spanish Empire Come To An End ?
      * Why Did The French Empire Fall ?

      Nothing Lasts Forever. Every empire and every civilisation will, sooner or later, end. Error number one.

      “Since the fall of Rome, the people who have “blond men with blue eyes” among them have come to be more advanced, overall, than their Mediterranean cousins.”

      From antiquity until the 17th century, the inhabitants of Italy were at the centre of the Western culture, being the fulcrum and origin of Ancient Rome, the Roman Catholic Church, Humanism, Renaissance and the Baroque.

      * The first cultural movement born outside of Italy was the Enlightenment, in the mid 1700s. Error number three.

    • JayMan / Apr 29 2013 11:19 AM

      Italians of today are descendants of Romans who lived there 2,000 years ago. By Romans, I mean inhabitants of the city of Rome who had spread out (thinly) to conquer and administer a vast Mediterranean empire by that time. We watch movies in which hordes of barbarians invade, knock down the columns, set things on fire, and carry off the dancing girls. Actually, the population of Italy was in the 10s of millions (while the lombard migrations for instance numbered around 200,000). The Visigoths, Ostrogoths, Huns, Arabs, and Normans were each in the 10s of thousands. The descendants of these invaders are still there. But much more numerous are the Descendants Of The Original Italians.

      The Empire fell primarily because the base population lost the qualities necessary to sustain it. The German invasion was the icing on the cake.

      * Why Did The British Empire Fall ?
      * Why Did The Spanish Empire Come To An End ?
      * Why Did The French Empire Fall ?

      Nothing Lasts Forever. Every empire and every civilisation will, sooner or later, end.

      Except that this is circular logic. Empires falls because they have fell in the past, so we expect them to do so in future. WHY does this happen? Only by answering this question can insert this phenomenon as evidence in any meaningful fashion.

      From antiquity until the 17th century, the inhabitants of Italy were at the centre of the Western culture, being the fulcrum and origin of Ancient Rome, the Roman Catholic Church, Humanism, Renaissance and the Baroque.

      * The first cultural movement born outside of Italy was the Enlightenment, in the mid 1700s. Error number three.

      Northern Italy, as you’d notice if you paid attention to anything I said.
      All right, so I’m moderating your comments from now on. If you show signs that you will engage in intellectually honest discussion, I’ll release you from this.

  7. Davide / Apr 29 2013 11:37 AM

    “Northern Italy, as you’d notice if you paid attention to anything I said.”

    * Ancient Rome [Lazio – Central Italy]; * Roman Catholic Church [Lazio – Central Italy]; * Humanism [Tuscany – Central Italy]; * Renaissance [Tuscany – Central Italy]; * Baroque [Lazio – Central Italy] …

    Northern Italy ?

    • JayMan / Apr 29 2013 11:41 AM

      Don’t be an ass. Look at the map of average IQs in Italy I’ve presented to you in the beginning. Northern Italy, in this context, means northern and central Italy, and I’ve said this. That is, Italy at roughly Rome and points north. That is, not Il Mezzogiorno.

      Still on moderation…

  8. Davide / Apr 29 2013 11:44 AM

    You are a German or an Englishman ? Thank you.

  9. Davide / Apr 29 2013 12:01 PM

    South Italy\Sicily IQ 89 – 92 ?

    MUSIC: Enrico Caruso, Farinelli, Domenico Scarlatti, Alessandro Scarlatti, Leonardo Leo, Nicola Porpora, Mauro Giuliani, Ferdinando Carulli, Domenico Cimarosa, Niccolò Jommelli, Giovanni Paisiello, Niccolò Piccinni, Vincenzo Bellini, Ruggero Leoncavallo, Saverio Mercadante, Francesco Cilea, Umberto Giordano, Domenico Modugno, Giuseppe Di Stefano, Salvadore Cammarano … …

    * Enrico Caruso operatic tenor; the power of his voice made him one of the greatest singers in the history of opera; he is for many the tenor par excellence.

    * Farinelli. Renowned for his vocal power and remarkable agility, one of the greatest singers in the history of opera.

    * Domenico Scarlatti, composer noted particularly for his 555 keyboard sonatas, which substantially expanded the technical and musical possibilities of the harpsichord.

    * Vincenzo Bellini, opera composer. His most celebrated works are the operas “La sonnambula” and “Norma”

    * Giuseppe Di Stefano, tenor, known as the “Golden voice” or “The most beautiful voice”

    ART, LITERATURE, AND SCIENCE: Niccolò Antonio Colantonio, Antonello da Messina, Jacopo Amigoni, Battistello Caracciolo, Luca Giordano, Pietro Novelli, Mattia Preti, Salvator Rosa, Francesco Solimena, Massimo Stanzione, Giuseppe Abbati, Giuseppe De Nittis, Giacomo Di Chirico, Umberto Boccioni, Giorgio de Chirico, Renato Guttuso, Mario Sironi, Gian Lorenzo Bernini, Vincenzo Gemito, Luigi Vanvitelli, Domenico Morelli, Totò … …

    * Gian Lorenzo Bernini. The greatest artist of the Baroque period; his best works are Apollo and Daphne and Ecstasy of Saint Theresa.

    * Umberto Boccioni. The leading theorist of futurist art; his sculpture, Unique Forms of Continuity in Space is generally considered his masterpiece.

    * Giorgio de Chirico, painter. He founded the scuola metafisica art movement. Guillaume Apollinaire called him “the most astonishing painter of his time.”

    * Antonello da Messina, painter. He was the greatest Sicilian artist of the 15th century.

    * Totò, actor. Likened by international film critics to the American film comic Buster Keaton

    Giordano Bruno, Jacopo Sannazaro, Torquato Tasso, Bernardino Telesio, Giambattista Basile, Tommaso Campanella, Giambattista Marino, Giambattista Vico, Luigi Capuana, Francesco de Sanctis, Giovanni Verga, Nicola Abbagnano, Italo Calvino, Andrea Camilleri, Benedetto Croce, Grazia Deledda, Julius Evola, Luigi Pirandello, Salvatore Quasimodo, Leonardo Sciascia, Ignazio Silone,Giuseppe Tomasi di Lampedusa, Iovianus Pontanus … …

    * Torquato Tasso, poet, one of the foremost writers of the Renaissance, celebrated for his heroic epic poem Jerusalem Delivered.

    * Giambattista Marino, poet. Founder of the school of Marinism (later Seicentismo); The Cambridge History of Italian Literature thought him to be “one of the greatest Italian poets of all time”.

    * In the late 1800s, a realistic literary movement called Verismo played a major role in Italian literature. Giovanni Verga was the leading author in this movement.

    * Luigi Pirandello, writer and dramatist, winner of the 1934 Nobel Prize for Literature.

    * Salvatore Quasimodo, poet. He received the Nobel Prize for Literature in 1959.

    * Grazia Deledda, novelist. She was awarded the Nobel Prize in 1926.

    Giuseppe Brotzu, Tommaso Campailla, Stanislao Cannizzaro, Ernesto Cesàro, Annibale de Gasparis, Ennio de Giorgi, Giambattista della Porta, Renato Dulbecco, Giovanni Battista Hodierna, Aloysius Lilius, Ettore Majorana,Luigi Palmieri, Emanuele Paternò … … …

    * Giambattista della Porta, scholar and polymath. He is best known for his work Magia Naturalis (1558), which dealt with alchemy, magic, and natural philosophy.

    * Renato Dulbecco, virologist who won the 1975 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

    * Ettore Majorana. In 1938, Italian physicist Enrico Fermi, who took him in his group when he was a student, ranked Majorana with Galileo Galilei (IQ=183-200) and Isaac Newton (IQ=190-200): “There are several categories of scientists in the world; those of second or third rank do their best but never get very far. Then there is the first rank, those who make important discoveries, fundamental to scientific progress. But then there are the geniuses, like Galilei and Newton. Majorana was one of these.”

    Think what you want about Southern Italians.

    I enjoyed it enough… (ahahaha)

    • JayMan / Apr 29 2013 12:27 PM

      South Italy\Sicily IQ 89 – 92 ?

      MUSIC: Enrico Caruso, Farinelli, Domenico Scarlatti, Alessandro Scarlatti, Leonardo Leo, Nicola Porpora, Mauro Giuliani, Ferdinando Carulli, Domenico Cimarosa, Niccolò Jommelli, Giovanni Paisiello, Niccolò Piccinni, Vincenzo Bellini, Ruggero Leoncavallo, Saverio Mercadante, Francesco Cilea, Umberto Giordano, Domenico Modugno, Giuseppe Di Stefano, Salvadore Cammarano … …

      How smart do you need to be to a musician or an artist? Besides, this is misunderstanding the nature of statistics. A low population average IQ doesn’t preclude the existence of exceptional individuals.

      * Giambattista della Porta, scholar and polymath. He is best known for his work Magia Naturalis (1558), which dealt with alchemy, magic, and natural philosophy.

      * Renato Dulbecco, virologist who won the 1975 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine.

      * Ettore Majorana. In 1938, Italian physicist Enrico Fermi, who took him in his group when he was a student, ranked Majorana with Galileo Galilei (IQ=183-200) and Isaac Newton (IQ=190-200): “There are several categories of scientists in the world; those of second or third rank do their best but never get very far. Then there is the first rank, those who make important discoveries, fundamental to scientific progress. But then there are the geniuses, like Galilei and Newton. Majorana was one of these.”

      As noted above, a low average IQ doesn’t rule out intelligent individuals. As a Black man, I think this would be obvious.

      Average IQ does say something about the overall innovative ability of a civilization, though. Southern Italy has contributed far less than the rest of the country, in the past few centuries. It continues to lag behind today.

  10. Davide / Apr 29 2013 12:14 PM

    I graduated.

    Study history for over 20 years.

    (ahahaha)

  11. ARYA SAMAJ / Apr 30 2013 6:32 PM

    “The o-n-l-y contribution by the ancient Aryans to European civilization was Indo-European languages.”

    White people are NOT “aryans”. Hitler bastardized South Asian Hindu terms like “arya” (there is no “aryan”) as well as Hindu symbols like the swastika.

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